london shooting

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Post by PORL » July 22, 2005, 2:20 pm

Police have shot a man dead at Stockwell underground station in south London, Scotland Yard confirmed.

Scotland Yard said: "We can confirm that just after 10am armed officers entered Stockwell Tube station. A man was challenged by officers and subsequently shot.

"London Ambulance Service attended the scene. He was pronounced dead at the scene."

There have been unconfirmed reports that police believe the man who was shot was one of the attackers involved in yesterday's incidents.

Witness Mark Whitby said the man was shot five times at close range after he had jumped on a train. The train was standing in the station with its doors open when the Asian man ran on, pursued by three plainclothes officers.

He tripped and was also pushed to the floor and one of the officers shot him five times. Mr Whitby said the Asian man was dead.

"I'm totally distraught," he said. "It was no more than five yards away from where I was sitting as I saw it with my own eyes."

He continued: "As the man got on the train I looked at his face. He looked from left to right, but he basically looked like a cornered rabbit, like a cornered fox. He looked absolutely petrified.

"He sort of tripped but they were hotly pursuing him and couldn't have been more than two or three feet behind him at this time.

"He half-tripped, was half-pushed to the floor. The policeman nearest to me had the black automatic pistol in his left hand, he held it down to the guy and unloaded five shots into him.

"He looked like a Pakistani but he had a baseball cap on, and quite a thickish coat. It was a coat like you would wear in winter, a sort of padded jacket.

"Maybe he might have had something concealed under there, I don't know. But it looked out of place in the weather we've been having. He was quite large, big built, quite a sort of chubby guy."

Passenger Briony Coetsee, 23, said: "We were on the Tube when we suddenly heard someone say 'get out, get out' and then we heard gunshots - someone was shooting.

"Somebody in plain clothes who I thought was a civilian cop had his gun out and started shooting and told us to get out."

A large area around Stockwell Tube Station, an interchange for the Northern and Victoria lines in south London, was cordoned off and traffic approaching the area ground to a halt.

Chris Wells, a 28-year-old company manager, said he was travelling on the Victoria Line towards Vauxhall when he left the train at Stockwell.

He saw about 20 police officers, some of them armed, rushing into the station before a man jumped over the barriers with police giving chase.

He said: "There were at least 20 of them (officers) and they were carrying big black guns.

"The next thing I saw was this guy jump over the barriers and the police officers were chasing after him and everyone was just shouting 'get out, get out"'.

Tube services on Victoria and Northern lines have been suspended following a request by the police, London Underground said.
do you think the police were justified to shoot and kill this man??

i think in that situation they acted correctly, but a couple of my friends disagree (because they're idiots)

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Post by Tenacious B » July 22, 2005, 2:25 pm

the only thing i can think of is that he was carrying a bomb of some sort, since 20 cops shooting an unarmed asian man in cold blood several times is the most completely batshit crazy thing i have ever heard.

i'm guessing the former. if he was carrying a bomb, the police have every right to shoot his fucking lungs out.

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Another passenger on the train, Anthony Larkin, told BBC News the man had been wearing a "bomb belt with wires coming out".

"I've seen these police officers shouting, 'Get down, get down!', and I've seen this guy who appears to have a bomb belt and wires coming out.
well, there ya go.
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Post by PORL » July 22, 2005, 2:29 pm

yeah i said that the police would have to assume that the guy was carrying a bomb from the way he was acting (with all the running away from police into a crowded train), and that they were justified in shooting him because trying to cuff him would take too long and thus leave the sand nigger time to blow himself up.

thought notice i say assume, since it doesn't mention whether he was carrying a bomb or not - and surely they would report that he was carrying a bomb because it would give the police lots of credit and put the public at rest. not sure on that though maybe theyll just report it later

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Post by Tenacious B » July 22, 2005, 2:31 pm

see my edit. although it's still not verified.

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Post by PORL » July 22, 2005, 2:36 pm

wow. hopefully theyll shoot people in the street next time (if there is a next time) because that guy was right where he needed to be.

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Post by Tenacious B » July 22, 2005, 2:43 pm

well obviously they need to start shooting people with lasers from satellites, before they actually leave their homes.

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Post by PORL » July 22, 2005, 2:43 pm

i'm going to crash my computer into your house you son of a bitch

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Post by Tenacious B » July 22, 2005, 2:59 pm

that may just stop me from bombing your village with the corpses of dead iraqis.

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Post by PORL » July 22, 2005, 3:14 pm

no don't stop that i'll never build my iraqiosaurus without their bones
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Post by Tenacious B » July 22, 2005, 3:18 pm

that's no iraqiosaurus, that's a space station!

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Post by keepinitneal » July 23, 2005, 11:37 am

I pity the fool rushing off to his dad's stall at Spitalfields with his knapsack fully laden with Egyptian cotton, thoroughly immersed in his iPod world, as he slips past a gang of cops on the underground platform to dive into the carriage before the doors close. Hypothetical scenario, is all i'm saying.
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Post by BadBoy » July 25, 2005, 7:54 am

just wondering which is worse

5 to 25 people shot dead by mistake and 1 terrorist

or

50 people blown up by the not shot terrorist
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