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Katrina

Post by BadBoy » September 8, 2005, 8:18 am

dispite the obvious racial slurs the below paints a bleak picture of what it must of been like to of been in new orleans during/ after katrina




Jamie Trout, 22, of Sunderland, told BBC News the five "horrific" days
he and his two female friends had spent in the Superdome, before being
freed by the US National Guard, had been "like something out of Lord
of the Flies".

"It was very dangerous - rioting, looting of vending machines, racial
abuse, absolutely terrible sanitary conditions."

They had been "intimidated by large groups of men" and, Mr Trout
added, he had feared he would be killed.


The girls were terrified to go to the toilet

Jamie Trout

The group had heard a child had been raped and found in the toilets
with a broken neck, Mr Trout told BBC News.

"That was a really hard time. It made us all feel sick.


"The girls were terrified to go to the toilet."





Jenny Sachs, of Sheffield, told how soldiers had to smuggle her out of
the Superdome in secret.

She was one of about 30 Britons who, realising they could not escape
the city, had fled to the stadium for shelter.

The military got us out, which we were all thankful for

Jenny Sachs


She said people had been raped and that others were beaten up.

"A guy was brought in who had seven stab wounds and was covered in
blood."

The military told all non-US citizens to stay together for safety, Ms
Sachs added.

They later told them they would be secretly smuggled out in groups of
10 under cover of darkness as it had become too dangerous for them to
remain in the stadium, she told BBC News.

"When we were leaving, people were going 'Where are you going?' and
giving us looks.

"But the military got us out, which we were all thankful for."


New Orleans is 67 percent black, and about half the blacks are poor. Of the
city's 480,000 people, all but an estimated 80 to 100 thousand left before
the hurricane struck. This meant that aside from patients in hospitals and
eccentrics in the French Quarter, most of the people who stayed behind were
not just blacks, but lower-class blacks without the means or foresight to
leave.

Katrina hit on the morning of Monday, Aug. 29. Immediately after the winds
died down, the first reaction was one of relief. The hurricane had jogged
east, and the city was battered but still standing. Then the levees
broke--apparently some time on Tuesday--and the city began to flood. Before
long, 80 percent of the city was under as much as 20 feet of water, and what
had been only a storm became a disaster.

The city's 70,000-seat football stadium, known as the Superdome, had been
officially designated as a public shelter before the hurricane, and several
thousand people were already there the night before the storm. It had some
food supplies, cots, and medical supplies. But when the waters began to
rise, people poured in from all directions, swelling its numbers to an
estimated 25,000.

People came because their houses were under water, but also because New
Orleans very quickly collapsed in banditry. Looting began even while the
storm was still blowing. At first there was sympathetic clucking about the
need for food and medicine, but news clips of blacks wading happily through
waist-deep water with television sets over their heads dispelled that view.

The day after the hurricane, a reporter caught the atmosphere of
high-spirited chaos at a Wal-Mart in the Lower Garden District. People were
grabbing things as quickly as they could, smashing open jewelry cabinets and
scooping up double-handfuls. One man packed his van so full of electronic
equipment he could not close the rear doors. A teenage girl passed out, face
down, and people stepped on her. A man stopped to roll her onto her back,
and she vomited pink liquid. "This is f***ed up," he said, and rolled her
back on her stomach. An NBC correspondent filmed black, uniformed police
strolling through the aisles, filling shopping carts.

At one store, a police officer broke the glass on the DVD case so civilians
would not cut themselves trying to break it, but one man was ungrateful.
"The police got all the best stuff," he said. "They're crookeder than us."
One woman stocking up on makeup was glad to see the officers. "It must be
legal," she said. "The police are here taking stuff, too."

Violence of all kinds quickly spread through the paralyzed city, where
robbery, rape and even murder became routine. There were still thousands of
people trapped on rooftops and in attics, but on Sept. 1, Mayor Ray Nagin
called the entire police force off of rescue work and ordered it to secure
the city. The response form the force? An estimated 200 officers just walked
off the job. "They indicated that they had lost everything and didn't feel
that it was worth them going back to take fire from looters and losing their
lives," explained Henry Whitehorn, chief of the Louisiana State Police. Many
disappeared without a word. Sherrif Harry Lee of Jefferson Parish in New
Orleans also said his men were quitting. "They want to be with their
families," he said. "Well, I want to be with my family too, but you don't
quit in the middle of a crisis."

Two police officers, including the department's official spokesman Paul
Accardo committed suicide by shooting themselves in the head. The London
Times estimated that one in five officers refused to work, and some of those
who stayed in uniform were useless. When Debbie Durso, a tourist from
Washington, Michigan, asked a policeman for help he told her "Go to
hell--it's every man for himself."

The collapse of security made rescue and relief nearly impossible. "No one
anticipated the disintegration or the erosion of the civilian police force
in New Orleans," explained Lieutenant General Steven Blum of the National
Guard. He said the city was operating on only one third of its pre-storm
strength of 1,500 officers, and that the guard had to switch from rescue to
law enforcement: "And that's when we started flowing military police into
the theater."

New Orleans has had only black mayors since 1978, and has spent decades
making the police force as black as possible. It established a
city-residency requirement for officers to keep suburban whites from
applying for jobs, and lowered recruitment standards so blacks could pass
them. Katrina blew away any pretence that the force was competent.

(On September 5, exactly a week after the hurricane, Mayor Ray Nagin offered
to pay for the entire police force, firefighters, and city emergency workers
to go on five-day vacations--with their families--to Las Vegas or some other
destination. He said there were enough National Guard in the city to
maintain order, and that his men "have been through a lot." He brushed off
suggestions that this was dereliction of duty. He even asked the Federal
Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to pay for the vacations, but FEMA
refused. "We haven't turned over control of the city," a city spokesman
explained. "We're going to leave a skeleton force--about 20 percent of the
department--for leadership and liaison with the troops while we get some
rest.")

New Orleans has a high crime rate at the best of times--it is usually in top
contention for the American city with the highest murder rate--and looted and
stolen firearms spilled into the street. Some blacks fired on any symbol of
authority, blazing away at rescue helicopters and Coast Guard vessels.
Several days after the hurricane, with desperate people still waving for
help from rooftops, FEMA said conditions were too dangerous to attempt
rescues.

On Wednesday, along one stretch of Highway 10, hundreds of volunteer
firefighters, auxiliary coastguards and citizens with small boats were
anxious to reach people, but could not set out because of sniper fire. "We
are trying to do our job here but we can't if they are shooting at us,
explained Major Joey Broussard of the Louisiana State Fisheries and Wildlife
Division. "We don't know who and we don't know why, but we don't want to get
in a situation of having to return fire out there," he said.

Perhaps the most chilling accounts were from hospitals, where staff
desperately tried to move patients up stairs as the water rose, while blacks
invaded and looted the floors below. Most hospitals had emergency
generators, but these began to fail or run out of fuel. Two days after the
hurricane, the city had no running water, and as food ran out, doctors and
nurses gave themselves intravenous feedings to keep going.

Just outside New Orleans, gunmen held up a supply truck carrying food,
water, and medical supplies that were on their way to a 203-bed hospital.
Patients in hospitals all across the city eventually had to be taken out,
but rescuers met resistance. Coast Guard Lt Cmdr Cheri Ben-Iesan told
reporters at an emergency headquarters: "Hospitals are trying to evacuate.
At every one of them, there are reports that as the helicopters come in
people are shooting at them, saying, 'You better come get my family.' " An
effort to evacuate patients and staff from Charity Hospital in downtown New
Orleans was stopped by sniper fire. Other hospitals reported gangs of
looters attacking and overturning ambulances.

Chris Lawrence, a reporter with CNN, filed a report from the roof of a
police station: "Right now it's the only safe place to be in the city. We
were on the street earlier but the police said under no circumstances would
you be safe on the street. They said anybody walking in the streets of New
Orleans is basically taking their life in their hands. They directed some
of the young women to get off the street immediately."

What may have been the most shocking headline of the entire crisis was in
the September 2 issue of Army Times: "Troops Begin Combat Operations in New
Orleans." The article was about the Louisiana National Guard massing near
the Superdome in preparation for a citywide security mission. "This place is
going to look like Little Somalia," Brig. Gen. Gary Jones explained. "We're
going to go out and take this city back. This will be a combat operation to
get this city under control." The amphibious assault ship Bataan was in the
area, but kept its helicopters on board after pilots reported sniper fire.

Many soldiers came under gunfire from civilians. "I never thought that as a
National Guardsman I would be shot at by other Americans," said Philip
Baccus of the 527th Engineer Battalion. "And I never thought I'd have to
carry a rifle when on a hurricane relief mission. This is a disgrace." Cliff
Ferguson of the same battalion added: "You have to think about whether it is
worth risking your neck for someone who will turn around and shoot at you.
We didn't come here to fight a war. We came here to help."

Michael Brown, head of FEMA, said: "We are working under conditions of urban
warfare." Lieutenant-General Steven Blum, of the National Guard, said the
7,000 guardsmen arriving in Louisiana would be dedicated to restoring order
to New Orleans. He said half of them had just returned from overseas
assignments and were "highly proficient in the use of lethal force." He
promised to deal with thugs "in a quick and efficient manner."

Shoot-to-kill orders were supposed to have gone out, and Louisiana Gov.
Kathleen Blanco boasted that battle-hardened veterans would put down the
violence in no time. However, there were few accounts of soldiers firing
their weapons. The London Times reported that a New Orleans policeman
explained through tears that he had seen bodies riddled with bullets, and
one man with the top of his head shot off. He said looters were armed with
stolen AK-47 rifles, and that the police were outgunned just like in
Somalia. "It's a war-zone, and they're [the federal government] not treating
it like one," he said.

We will never know the full extent of the mayhem blacks loosed on their own
city. Many victims will not be found for weeks or even months, rotted beyond
recognition, their killers never found. Drowned or murdered, the bloated,
stinking bodies that turn up by the hundreds will look much the same. In
their haste to get cadavers off the streets, the authorities may not worry
much about cause of death.

::From Hurricane to Jungle::

In the two main refugee centers, however--the Superdome and the Convention
Center--too many people witnessed the degeneracy for it to be ignored. The
first refugees had arrived at the Superdome the day before the hurricane, on
Sunday, August 28th. The last finally left the stadium on Saturday, Sept, 3,
so some people may have spent nearly a week in what, after the toilets began
to overflow, became known as the Sewerdome.

Preparation for refugees was pitifully inadequate. By day, as many as 25,000
people sweltered in temperatures that rose into the 100s. Whatever order had
been established soon melted away, and the stadium reverted to the jungle.
Young men robbed and raped with impunity. Occasional gunshots panicked the
crowd. At least one man committed suicide by sailing off a high deck and
splattering onto the playing field. Bodies of the murdered, and of infants
and the elderly who died of heat exhaustion began to accumulate. Six babies
were born in the stadium. Charles Womack, a 30-year-old roofer, said he saw
one man beaten to death, and was, himself beaten with a pipe. Crack
addicts--who had brought their most valuable possession with them--smoked
openly and fought over drugs.

A group of about 30 British students were among the very small number of
whites in the stadium, where they spent four harrowing days. Jamie Trout,
22, an economics major, wrote that the scene "was like something out of Lord
of the Flies," with "people shouting racial abuse about us being white." One
night, word came that the power was failing, and that there was only ten
minutes' worth of gas for the generators. Zoe Smith, 21, from Hull, said
they all feared for their lives: "All us girls sat in the middle while the
boys sat on the outside, with chairs as protection," she said. "We were
absolutely terrified, the situation had descended into chaos, people were
very hostile and the living conditions were horrendous." She sad that even
during the day, "when we offered to help with the cleaning, the locals gave
us abuse."

Mr. Trout said the National Guard finally recognized how dangerous the
threat was from blacks, and moved the British under guard to the basketball
area, which was safer. "The army warned us to keep our bags close to us and
to grip them tight," he said, as they were escorted out. Twenty-year-old
Jane Wheeldon credited one man in particular, Sgt. Garland Ogden, with
getting the Britons safely out. "He went against a lot of rules to get us
moved," she said.

Australian tourists stuck in the Superdome had the same experience. Bud
Hopes, a 32-year-old man from Kangaroo Point, Brisbane, took control and may
have saved many lives. As the stadium reverted to anarchy he realized whites
were in danger, and gathered tourists together for safety. "There were 65 of
us altogether so we were able to look after each other, especially the girls
who were being grabbed and threatened," said Mr. Hopes. They organized
escorts for women who had to go to the toilet or for food, and set up a
roster of men to stand guard while others slept. "We sat through the night
just watching each other, not knowing if we would be alive in the morning,"
Mr. Hopes said. "Ninety-eight percent of the people around the world are
good," he said; "in that place 98 per cent of the people were bad."

John McNeil of Coorparoo in Brisbane tells what happened to their group,
too, heard the lights were about to go out: "I looked at Bud [Hopes] and
said, 'That will be the end of us.' The gangs had already eyed us off. If
the lights had gone out we would have been in deep trouble. We were sitting
there praying for a miracle and the lights stayed on." Mr. Hopes said the
Australians owed their lives to a National Guardsman who broke the rules and
got whites out to a medical center past seething crowds of blacks.

Peter McNeil of Brisbane told the Australian AP that his son John was one of
the 65 who managed to get out. The blacks were reportedly so hostile "they
would stab you as soon as look at you." "He's never been so scared in his
life," explained Mr. McNeil. "He just said they had to get out of the dark.
Otherwise, another night, he said, they would have been gone." No American
newspaper wrote about what these white tourists had gone through.

When guardsmen began to show up in force on Sept. 1 and take control, some
blacks met them with cheers, but others shouted obscenities at them. Capt.
John Pollard of the Texas Air Force National Guard said 20,000 people were
in the dome when the evacuation began, but thousands more appeared from
surrounding areas when word got out that there were buses leaving town.
Soldiers held their M-16s and grenade-launchers ready, and kept a sharp eye
out for snipers.

That same day, when it was time to board buses for Houston, soldiers had
trouble controlling the crowd. People at the back of the mob crushed the
people in front against barricades the soldiers put up to contain the crowd.
Many people continued to yell obscenities whenever they saw a patrol go by.
Some were afraid of losing their place in line and defecated where they
stood. The Army Times reported that Sgt. 1st Class Ron Dixon of the Oklahoma
National Guard had recently come home from Afghanistan. He said he was
struck by the fact Afghanis wanted to help themselves, but that the people
of New Orleans only wanted others to help them.

By the evening of Sept. 3, the Superdome was finally evacuated, but the
state-of-the-art stadium was a reeking cavern of filth, human waste, and an
unknown number of corpses. It, too, had been looted of everything not bolted
down. Janice Singleton was working at the stadium when the storm hit. She
said she was robbed of everything she had, including her shoes. As for the
building: "They tore that dome apart," she said sadly. "They tore it down.
They taking everything out of there they can take."

If anything, conditions were worse at the Convention Center. Although on
high ground not far from the stadium, it had not been designated as a
shelter. It was, however, beyond reach of the high water, and soon some
20,000 people were huddled in its cavernous halls. There were no supplies or
staff, and for several days neither FEMA nor the National Guard seems to
have known anyone was there.

Armed gangs took control, and occasional gunshots caused panic. There was no
power, and at night the center was plunged into complete darkness.
Degeneracy struck almost immediately, with rapes, robbery, and murder.
Terrible shrieking tore through the night, but no one could see or dared to
move. When Police Chief Eddie Compass heard what was happening, he sent a
squad of 88 officers to investigate. They were overwhelmed by superior
forces and retreated, leaving thousands to the mercy of criminals.

It was not until Sept. 2--four days after the hurricane--that a force of 1,000
National Guardsmen finally took over from the armed gangs. "Had we gone in
with a lesser force we may have been challenged, innocents may have been
caught in a fight between the guard and military police and those who did
not want to be processed or apprehended," explained Lieutenant-General Blum.

Sitting with her daughter and other relatives, Trolkyn Joseph, 37, told a
reporter that men had wandered the center at night raping and murdering
children. She said she found a dead 14-year old girl at 5 a.m. on Friday
morning, four hours after the girl went missing. "She was raped for four
hours until she was dead," Miss Joseph said through tears. "Another child, a
seven-year old boy, was found raped and murdered in the kitchen freezer last
night."

Africa Brumfield, 32, explained that women were in particular fear: "There
is rapes going on here. Women cannot go to the bathroom without men. They
are raping them and slitting their throats." Donald Anderson, 43, was at the
convention center with his wife who was six months pregnant: "We circled the
chairs like wagons because at night there are stampedes," he said. "We had
to survive."

The very few whites in the crowd were terrified. Eighty-year-old Selma
Valenti, who was with her husband, said blacks threatened to kill them on
Thursday, Sept. 1. "They hated us. Four young black men told us the buses
were going to come last night and pick up the elderly so they were going to
kill us," she said, sobbing. Presumably, the blacks wanted to take their
places on the buses.

The center was not entirely without a form of rough justice. A National
Guardsman reported that a man who had raped and killed a young girl in the
bathroom was caught by the crowd--which beat him to death.

At one time there were as many as seven or eight corpses in front of the
center, some of them with blood streaming from bullet wounds. Inside, there
was an emergency morgue, but a National Guardsman refused to let a Reuters
photographer in to take pictures. "We're not letting anyone in there
anymore," he said. "If you want to take pictures of dead bodies, go to
Iraq." By Saturday, Sept. 3, the center was mostly cleared of the living.
Refugees pulled shirts over their noses trying to block out the smell as
they walked past rotting bodies.

By the weekend, there were an estimated 50,000 soldiers and federal rescue
workers in the city, but even the massive presence did not bring calm. On
Sunday, Sept. 4, contractors working for the US Army Corps of Engineers came
under fire. Their police escort returned fire, in what became a running gun
battle. Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police killed four of the
attackers.

By Saturday, police had set up a temporary booking and detention center at
the New Orleans train station. State Attorney General Charles Foti said
there were plans for a temporary court system, but no one knew how they were
going to assemble juries or call witnesses. The grim business began of
combing the drowning city for corpses and the remaining survivors.

::Reactions::

The world reacted with astonishment to sights it never expected to see in
the United States. "Anarchy in the USA," read the headline in Britain's
best-selling newspaper, The Sun. "Apocalypse Now," said Handelsblatt in
Germany. Mario de Carvalho, a veteran Portuguese cameraman, who has covered
the world's trouble spots, said he saw the bodies of babies and old people
along the highways leading out of New Orleans. "It's a chaotic situation.
It's terrible. It's a situation we generally see in other countries, in the
Third World," he said.

The comparison would have been insulting to some Third-Worlders. "I am
absolutely disgusted," said Sajeewa Chinthaka, 36, of the looters. The Sri
Lanka native added: "After the tsunami our people, even the ones who lost
everything, wanted to help the others who were suffering. Not a single
tourist caught in the tsunami was mugged. Now with all this happening in the
U.S. we can easily see where the civilized part of the world's population
is."

In the United States, the stark contrast between endless scenes of appalling
behavior by blacks and rescue personnel who were almost all white was
greeted with the standard foolishness. Some people accused the "biased"
media of suppressing footage of rampaging whites and heroic black helicopter
pilots.

Most blacks made excuses for looters. "Desperate people do desperate
things," said U.S. Rep. Diane Watson of California. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.,
Democrat from Illinois, said we must not judge harshly: "Who are we to say
what law and order should be in this unspeakable environment?" Rep. Melvin
Watt, North Carolina Democrat and chairman of the Congressional Black
Caucus, was perhaps the greatest ass of all: "Whatever is being taken could
not be used by anyone else anyway," he said.

Many blacks took it for granted that federal relief was slow because the
victims were black. Rep. Elijah Cummings said "poverty, age and skin color"
determined who lived and who died. Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP's
Washington bureau, blasted "disparate treatment" of Katrina victims. "Many
black people feel that their race, their property conditions and their
voting patterns have been a factor in the response," explained Jesse
Jackson, Sr. He said the rubbish outside the Convention Center made the
place look "like the hull of a slave ship." Black activist and
reparations-booster Randall Robinson said the relief effort was the
"defining watershed moment in America's racial history." He said he had
"finally come to see my country for what it really is. A monstrous fraud."

U.S. Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick said she was "ashamed of America and of our
government." Mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin shouted and wept on local
radio, demanding of federal officials: "Get off your asses, and let's do
something," (and gave city workers a vacation when the feds arrived). There
was an undercurrent of fury at a meeting of black leaders in Detroit. One
audience member wanted to know whether the slow federal response was "black
genocide." Another shouted, "African Americans built this nation.
Descendants of slaves are being allowed to die."

One black man, observing the chaos from abroad, took a different view.
Leighton Levy wrote in the Sept. 2 Jamaica Star: "I am beginning to believe
that black people, no matter where in the world they are, are cursed with a
genetic predisposition to steal, murder, and create mayhem." He wanted to
know why there was no footage of white looters: "Is it that the media are
not showing pictures of them looting and robbing? Or is it that they are too
busy trying to stay alive, waiting to be rescued, and hiding from the
blacks?"

Most blacks and many whites fell into the usual assumptions about omnipotent
white government and helpless Negroes. If black people were suffering it was
because whites had not done enough for them. It did not occur to them that
it was the responsibility of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana--not the
federal government--to prepare for hurricanes. Before the storm hit, Mayor
Nagin issued a mandatory evacuation only under pressure from the Bush
administration. The mayor then did nothing to enforce the order, leaving
hundreds of city buses and school buses to drown rather than use them to
offer transportation to people without cars.

Something of the mood of black New Orleans was caught by Fox News film crews
as late as Sunday, Sept. 4. White volunteers were trying to persuade a black
woman and her small children to leave her flooded house. "You've got to get
out," they explained. "The water isn't going away." A black man at the top
of a multi-story building told a helicopter crew he didn't need to leave.
All he needed was some supplies.

These people could not understand something that was obvious to the whole
world: New Orleans had no electricity, no plumbing, no transport, and no
food. Blacks refused to leave their flooded homes, even though to stay meant
near-certain death.

Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff noted how crazy it was to stay in
the wreckage. "That is not a reasonable alternative," he said. "We are not
going to be able to have people sitting in houses in the city of New Orleans
for weeks and months while we de-water and clean this city."

FEMA reported that it had pulled three Carnival Cruise Lines ships from
commercial duty to shelter the blacks of New Orleans. Maybe the chance of
berth on the Ecstasy, the Sensation or the Holiday would be enough to drag
them out of the muck.

::Lessons::

Ninety-nine percent of the white people left New Orleans when the evacuation
order went out. Some 80,000 backs could not or would not leave. Whites did
not "leave them behind," as the editorial-writers keep telling us. No one
could have gotten some of them to leave, but if it was anyone's job to give
them the option, it was that of the black-run city government. Of the blacks
who stayed, probably only a minority committed crimes, but they were enough
to turn the city into a hell hole. Some did unspeakable things: loot
hospitals, fire on rescue teams, destroy ambulances. No amount of
excuse-making and finger-pointing can paper over degeneracy like that. Black
people--and only black people--did these things.

The Superdome and the Convention Center were certainly unpleasant places to
spend three or four days, but 50,000 whites would have behaved completely
differently. They would have established rules, organized supplies, cared
for the sick and dying. They would have organized games for children. The
papers would be full of stories of selflessness and community spirit.

Natural disasters usually bring out the best in people. They help neighbors
and strangers alike. For blacks--at least the lower-class blacks of New
Orleans--disaster was an excuse to loot, rob, rape and kill.

Our rulers and media executives will try to turn the story of Hurricane
Katrina into yet another morality tale of downtrodden blacks and heartless
whites, but pandering of this kind fools fewer and fewer people. Many whites
will realize--some for the first time--that we have Africa in our midst, that
utterly alien Africa of road-side corpses, cruelty, and anarchy that they
thought could never wash up on our shores.

To be sure, the story of Hurricane Katrina does have a moral for anyone not
deliberately blind. The races are different. Blacks and whites are
different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western
Civilization--any kind of civilization--disappears. And in a crisis,
civilization disappears overnight.



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Post by Ceek » September 8, 2005, 8:36 am

Wish there was a longer article i could read.
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Post by Tenacious B » September 8, 2005, 8:52 am

where did you get the main body of text from? i checked your link, but i doubt the bbc would carry something that controversial.

it is very well written, in spite of the agenda being pushed.

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Post by BadBoy » September 8, 2005, 8:56 am

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Post by Michelle » September 8, 2005, 9:39 am

Hear what Bush's mother said bout her darling son? Like mother like Daughter/son.. whatever he/she is.

Not only is the Bush Administration blaming the world for their problems, but now their own ppl for natural disaster's.

Fucking idiots

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Post by Andrew » September 8, 2005, 10:55 am

Shit that's sad ,
I feel like i have an army of angry midget's dancing in my head

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Post by girltron » September 8, 2005, 11:17 am

This is the reason I do not live in the South. It is a different world down there.

I hate this. Dr. King must be turning in his grave. :sadshake:
The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

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Post by Mr Dildo » September 8, 2005, 1:30 pm

Michelle wrote:Hear what Bush's mother said bout her darling son? Like mother like Daughter/son.. whatever he/she is.

Not only is the Bush Administration blaming the world for their problems, but now their own ppl for natural disaster's.

Fucking idiots

GOD BLESS AMERICA
All she said was that a whole lot of the New Orleans population were now probably better off than they were before Katrina. This is probably true considering how much looting seems to be going down.
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Post by Michelle » September 8, 2005, 1:41 pm

Bush is still a dumb fuck and i hate him. So I'm glad that America now hates him more

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Post by girltron » September 8, 2005, 2:30 pm

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/show ... 09051.html


This is the radio program that the Bush's (HW and Babs) appeared on. In it she says "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them."

REALLY?! So, loosing everything you own and being forced to live in filth and despair, and then start fresh is what one would consider "working out well"?!!

gah! This country I live in is FUCKED.
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Post by chemicallymark » September 8, 2005, 2:31 pm

.Matt wrote:it is very well written, in spite of the agenda being pushed.
Agreed.

Pretty hectic read.

I think it is America's Karma that is causing all this shit for them.
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Post by Michelle » September 8, 2005, 2:35 pm

girltron wrote:http://marketplace.publicradio.org/show ... 09051.html


This is the radio program that the Bush's (HW and Babs) appeared on. In it she says "And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them."

REALLY?! So, loosing everything you own and being forced to live in filth and despair, and then start fresh is what one would consider "working out well"?!!

gah! This country I live in is FUCKED.
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Post by girltron » September 8, 2005, 2:38 pm

chemicallymark wrote: I think it is America's Karma that is causing all this shit for them.
I can't help but agree.
It's sickening poetic justice that this is all happening in a "Red State" (majority of votes went to Bush) and that Bush's own home state (Texas) is being inundated with angry, bedraggled refugees. heh

We keep getting headlines like "God outdoes terrorism!"...sick.

Also...this is what happens when you piss off black America:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 00165.html

I really wish this all would've happened BEFORE that sonuvabitch was up for re-election...sheeeyyyit.
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Post by chemicallymark » September 8, 2005, 2:48 pm

girltron wrote: We keep getting headlines like "God outdoes terrorism!"...sick.
This is actually pretty funny. But in a sick way.
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Post by Michelle » September 8, 2005, 2:48 pm

Shame man :worried: Listen... ASSASINATE HIM!!!!!! Do the team a favour or like cut his tongue out. Go work as an intern and when he hits on u (as ur presidents do;) ) Poison him :evillaugh:

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Post by Ceek » September 8, 2005, 2:56 pm

Michelle - not just a pretty face but a brilliant political mind. Watch out Nkosazana Zuma.
During the last six decades, Cliff Richard has charted many hit singles, and holds the record (along with Elvis Presley) as the only act to make the UK singles charts in all of its active decades (1950s–2000s). According to his website, he has sold 250 million records over the course of his career.

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Post by Michelle » September 8, 2005, 3:02 pm

Hey, Chris, it was a good suggestion

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Post by Ceek » September 8, 2005, 3:05 pm

assassinate
During the last six decades, Cliff Richard has charted many hit singles, and holds the record (along with Elvis Presley) as the only act to make the UK singles charts in all of its active decades (1950s–2000s). According to his website, he has sold 250 million records over the course of his career.

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Post by masterb » September 8, 2005, 3:07 pm

minister of bukkake ...

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Post by Michelle » September 8, 2005, 3:11 pm

Hot :burn:

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